**28.03.02.(Up-dated 25.07.03.)**

**A909(I think) How to get the distances to The Quasars!!**

**(Extracted 1.03.02.(THIS IS THE ONE!!!!)(Use this one!!!!)Now I am going to improve on my four quasar methods:-(This latest article incorporates the earlier ones. So no need to look at those.))**

**Because my original four are actually only THREE different methods!!!(The last two really being one.)**

**With the quasars,etc. you multiply the sky arc distance by Pi/2.**

**Because the LATERAL distances(the gaps) are THAT much deficient!! Since space time is bent!!**

**However we see laterally AS a straight.(Not only do we see ALONG chords to the objects, but the sky arc ACROSS SPACE VIEW is also in CHORDS!!!!) So we need to multiply the SKY arc(which is a chord!!) by Pi/2!! To convert the SEEN straight gap into its true BENT measure!!!!**

**Sky arcs(chords!!) are concerned with a DISTANCE(of gap)correction. DIRECTLY!!!!**

**These require multiplication I THINK by Pi/2 to convert to the correct BENT distance. Just the general bending.(NORMALLY. Local warps can be removed by repeatedly dividing by Pi/2(casting out)until the difference is minimalized. But we do not KNOW what we are aiming for with the quasars and radio sources, because orthodox distances here are so bad!! ) (Normally, with other objects, WE DO.) SO DO NOT TOUCH THE LOCAL WARPS!!!! Just do the Pi/2!!)**

**Local warps can be positive or negative. So entails multiplying or dividing by Pi/2 repeatedly. Leave alone!!**

**My NEW four different methods(the REAL four different methods)are as follows:-**

**(Use this one, not the original version. Which though correct is not by four different methods, but three.)**

**1. My linear formula. The geometric mean of the product of 3.6(Edit. 28.07.03. No!! I made a mistake. Revert to 1.6)v x rv.**

**2. H.L. DISTANCE divided by 100.**

**3. Associated galaxies(Parent, main and associated!!!!)(My method!!) Compare with the associated quasar distances!!!!**

**4. Almost identical pairs:(Q1 – Q2 divided by 2.) leads to the sky arc gaps in SECONDS of arc. From this you can then(knowing Q1 – Q2 actual distance)convert into the distance away of the common centre, and of course Q1 and Q2.**

**There are now FOUR DIFFERENT methods.**

**But of course you will need to get the distances of the pairs, Q1 and Q2.(Q1 minus Q2.)**

**And use the 3D distance between them from the 2d gap!!(Which is the average 2d gap times 2 to change from chord distance into arc!!)**

**The quasars will be a little distance away from the various associated galaxies. So these GALAXIES will not be THAT close!!**

**Did you follow all right??**

**Any questions, fire away!!!!(You may need an Ouija Board!!!!)**

**W.F.Thomas.(My two disks, but use this one, they tell you how to get the distances to the quasars.)**

**P.S. It is not hard, but strange!! And so entirely different a set up may be expected to create an emotional resistance!!!! But although it may LOOK absurd, it is quite correct!! I have been on it for DECADES. And checked it repeatedly all ways. (Not only proving theoretically. But CONFIRMING by the very many amazing results.)**

**Being into new uncut ground, I have to coin my own terms.**

**It is simply not possible to discuss this using the old nomenclature!!!!**

**I HAVE TO BE quite free in my approach and my style!!!!**

**So naturally it cannot be cast STRAIGHT into a PAPER!!!!**

**Note that this proves Doctor Halton.C. Arp is basically correct!(He claims quasars close to nearby associated galaxies. He is right.)**

**Victor Conway.**